The disparity in simultaneous launches
Hello, I'm here to address an issue that i believe most of the NA community is unaware of and would love to hear everyone's feedback as well as potential insight/clarification from papaya's own team,
As many people are aware lost saga NA will be launching on April 6th, Currently the game will be launching with 76 of the 232 heroes that exist in the korean version of the game (This amount includes premiums that even KLS does not have access to anymore as well), As well as a client that is a few (?) years old at this point in regard to current balance changes that exist in the korean version and have been heavily implemented in the past year once the new host Valofe took control, However what most people aren't aware of is that Lost Saga Origin (Lost saga Indonesian's) newest server will also be having a simultaneous launch taking place on April 6th as well, Here's where the issues start to present themselves, LSO (Lost Saga Origin) as i'll continue to refer to it from here on will be launching with almost the COMPLETE roster of heroes that exist in KLS (232+ Minus premiums that no longer have a current contract as well as uniques), Not to mention the newest client that has introduced a plethora of balance changes to help the health of the game over the past year,
Not only with LSO be having such a large launch version difference but their players will also be rewards ten folds on the official launch of their newest version,
Existing players of LSI will be rewarded with a list of 50 yes FIVE ZERO permanent heroes (Sourced https://lostsaga.gnjoy.id/home#veteran)
They also held a beta reward where players who reached 2LT during said closed beta will be receiving 25 yes TWO FIVE permanent heroes (These heroes are meant for those who are not a veteran and will overlap with the veteran rewards)
As well their pre-register event and rewards are 10x what will be receiving as they had multiple tiers that the community helped to reach here is the exact list of rewards in comparison to what NA is confirmed to be launching with
Lost Saga Origin :
5 Hero Packs 1 Random B Pet 1 Random Costume Box 2 Special Hero Scroll 1 Perm Hero Scroll 1 Motion 1 x6 Hero Slots 1 100% Enhancment Card 1 +10 PGC 1 Style Pack 1 +5 Perm Armor Chest 1 +5 Perm Weapon Chest 1 +5 Perm Trinket Chest 1 +5 Permanet Helm Chest Valentine Costume Set Lion Paladin Costume Set Rage Berserker Costume Set Venom Assassin Costume Set White Reaper Costume Set x Amount of Megaphones 2000 Dim Shards 100k Peso
Lost Saga NA :
Basic Merc Package Basic Gear Package XP/GP Booster 1x Of PGC Armor/Helm/Trinket/Weapon and a Style package.
So, I simply ask as the NA Community, do you believe that what we're receiving both rewards and as a launch state version are fair in comparison to a version of the game that has only had to restart one time versus the three that NA has occurred and are both launching at the exact same time.
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Nope. Game is already free-to-play. Papaya aren't obligated to give you anything extra if they don't want to. They don't have to make up for your previous losses.
Don't use the ILS servers for comparison, different companies have different business plans.
It's interesting that you say that papaya does not need to make up for previous loses (Which i also agree with), However i'm only simply comparing what is being offered as a launch reward for a version that is starting fresh at the exact same time, not to mention ILS is rewarding it's veteran players for returning so the debate of "The company doesn't need to make up for previous losses" is kind of thrown out the door at that point in direct comparison.
I understand why you think that, but whatever ILS chooses to give their players is at their own discretion, it is by no means 'the norm', if you will. I don't know what more to say on this, because another provider in another continent has chosen to give their players more on launch (which may or may not prove to be at their detriment/benefit, time will tell) does not in any way set a standard for a provider of a similar (but not the same) service in NA.
Time for me to get to bed though, enjoy your day.
I think that basic hero package is a joke and it should be normal hero package, so you can play with one hero you enjoy.
Indonesia server is overkilling it but that's up to them.
The hero roster is kinda weird, but I would not compare it with any other server. NA is NA, Indo is Indo. Different communities, different objectives, different culture.
I'm okay with the roster being cut down to this size if it means we won't be missing out on important reforms, functions, and modes that were introduced in KLS, like costume gear designs.
NA has no other alternatives for Lost Saga and seeing how eager everyone is to throw their cash at Papaya, they will be satisfied with whatever they get. Origin on the other hand has tons of competition on the market. There's Remastered Lost Saga and also some other places I'm not supposed to talk about, so I won't name them. They have to somehow attract playerbase to their version of the game while Papaya has no pressure at all. Indonesian playerbase is way more familiar with newer content, so they would be heavily dissatisfied if they had to start over from the 2014 client version, and it wouldn't fare too well against what Remastered already has. Papaya's choice to go with such an old roster might have to do something with licenses cost, or they simply believe it's the best starting point for them to bring in completely new players or cash in on stuff that won't matter in the future. Papaya is known for their games being a little bit too p2w and staff doesn't seem to know too much about the game itself yet, so you shouldn't expect too much.
Hey Stucky,
Thanks for reaching out, I can't speak for other publishers/version of Lost Saga so I'll just focus on our Lost Saga NA.
First and foremost, regarding the launch state, it is intentional that we started "small" in terms of mercenary number. The main rationale behind it is the fact that more mercenaries mean more potential issues/imbalances that need to be addressed. It has been some time since there was an official Lost Saga NA Server, this means that it is pertinent to allow the community to try things out, provide feedback and then for us to work on getting that feedback directed into changes. Starting off with a huge roster would therefore complicate this process significantly. But, we are well aware of the fact that you guys want to see more mercenaries introduced (and the community has said that much from our CBT survey) which is why we will be expanding the mercenary roster during the launch. More information on this will be shared soon.
As for the Pre-Registration rewards, we have thrown in some additional pre-registration rewards on top of the original list and the full list now includes:
*Basic Mercenary Package
*Basic Gear Package
*Random Medal Box
*200% EXP Coupon
*100% Peso Coupon
*Random Rare Armor Box
*Random Rare Trinket Box
*Random Rare Weapon Box
*Random Rare Helmet Box
*Style Package
We will also be having a number of launch events where players can earn various rewards/bonuses on top of the Pre-Registration rewards as part of the Grand Launch.
The CBT Survey also asked a number of questions in terms of modes/content and we have ensured that the additions to LS NA are reflective of the survey results.
Along the way, we know that there will definitely be more feedback and suggestions that you guys will have whether it be on balancing, desire to see more/other content etc. We will continue to read and gather feedback from the community so that we can live up to our commitment of being guided by the community's voice as much as possible.
Hope this at least helps to address your concerns a bit better. In the meantime, if you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out!
Have a lovely week ahead!
Hellooooo,
76 out of 232?
I think we should have left off at whatever we were at previously. I understand that one of the reasons behind such a small release was for "nostalgia" of the times that weren't OP or fast paced, but its only going to lose that feeling after time.
If anything, I do believe that we should at least get releases at a faster pace at least to where we officially left off before. :)
*side note: also keep up the current kls nerfs/buffs so we don't get used to anything and then it changes and we ask why or what or whatever.
Just my lil POV,
Pathos ❤️👄❤️
I think the state that they are releasing the game is fantastic.
NA getting shafted again, never to see all that new KLS content that seems so close, yet so very, very far.
I agree with that statement, nowadays there's no reason to have such big difference between original version and regional version. I can understand that translation takes time, but it shouldn't be few years difference. One month delay would be totally reasonable, giving publishers time to do their work, meanwhile not being so far with content.